l{"id":1285870,"date":"2023-10-14T07:30:35","date_gmt":"2023-10-14T06:30:35","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.businesstelegraph.co.uk\/roxane-gay-im-trying-to-move-further-left-because-thats-the-only-way-that-were-gonna-achieve-change\/"},"modified":"2023-10-14T07:30:35","modified_gmt":"2023-10-14T06:30:35","slug":"roxane-gay-im-trying-to-move-further-left-because-thats-the-only-way-that-were-gonna-achieve-change","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.businesstelegraph.co.uk\/roxane-gay-im-trying-to-move-further-left-because-thats-the-only-way-that-were-gonna-achieve-change\/","title":{"rendered":"Roxane Gay: \u2018I\u2019m trying to move further left because that\u2019s the only way that we\u2019re gonna achieve change\u2019"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <script async src=\"\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js\"><\/script>\r\n<!-- newscabal uk text -->\r\n<ins class=\"adsbygoogle\"\r\n     style=\"display:inline-block;width:728px;height:90px\"\r\n     data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-8162386273903324\"\r\n     data-ad-slot=\"3688094655\"><\/ins>\r\n<script>\r\n(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});\r\n<\/script><br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div wp_automatic_readability=\"293.1596247443\">\n<p class=\"dcr-19m3vvb\"><span class=\"dcr-7pg7ab\"><span class=\"dcr-1uaoxbs\">B<\/span><\/span>efore the pandemic, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/books\/roxane-gay\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" data-component=\"auto-linked-tag\">Roxane Gay<\/a> was constantly on the road. When the lockdowns of early 2020 came into effect, she realised something startling. \u201cThat was the longest I had been in one place since 2014.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-19m3vvb\">She and her now wife, the writer and designer Debbie Millman, had just decided to live together between LA and New York when the pandemic hit. But Gay\u2019s mother has stage 4 lung cancer, and \u201cyou know, lung cancer and Covid don\u2019t go well together\u201d, Gay says. So they formed a pod, or bubble. \u201cI was like, \u2018I\u2019m not going a year without seeing my parents when we don\u2019t know how much longer she has.\u2019 But she\u2019s a marvel. Turns out she\u2019s got a lot more time.\u201d Her smile as she says this is sweet, almost private. \u201cIt was great to be able to keep our eyes on them. It was fun to hang out. I like my parents. They\u2019re just funny. And they\u2019re amazing people to live with as adults.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-19m3vvb\">Meanwhile, amid the horror of a global catastrophe, Gay and Millman eked out quality time together. They got a puppy, played badminton and went on neighbourhood bike rides. Later that summer, Gay revealed the pair had eloped. \u201cI didn\u2019t get much writing done, but I did enjoy the step back,\u201d she says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-19m3vvb\">The \u201cstep back\u201d comes after more than a decade of near-constant stepping forward. Gay, 48, is a multi-hyphenate: novelist, essayist, short story writer, professor, editor, comic book creator, reviewer, podcast host, critic and commentator, and before its recent reinvention, tweeter. Today we\u2019re meeting to talk about a new collection of her nonfiction writing from the last 10 years. The book, split into seven sections, is pertly called Opinions. But its wordier subtitle, \u201cA Decade of Arguments, Criticism, and Minding Other People\u2019s Business\u201d tells the real story of the breadth of what interests Gay. And if you\u2019ve been paying attention this past decade, you\u2019ll know it is vast.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-19m3vvb\">Gay was born in Omaha, Nebraska, to strict but supportive Haitian immigrant parents who encouraged curiosity and excellence in Roxane and her two younger brothers. The event that shattered her childhood was written about in a stark and stunning 2010 essay, <a href=\"https:\/\/therumpus.net\/2012\/04\/12\/what-we-hunger-for\/\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">What We Hunger For<\/a>: an unforgettable account of her rape at 12 by a boy she thought was her boyfriend, and his friends. The essay was republished in her barnstorming anthology Bad Feminist, in 2014, the same year as her debut novel, An Untamed State. Both were greeted with triumphant fanfare, and she began writing columns for the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/commentisfree\/series\/roxane-gay-column\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">Guardian US<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/column\/roxane-gay\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">the New York Times<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-19m3vvb\">In 2017, she published a short story collection, Difficult Women, and Hunger, a memoir of her body. The following year, she edited an anthology on rape culture, Not That Bad. Gay\u2019s thoughts on everything from <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/media\/charlie-hebdo\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">Charlie Hebdo<\/a> to Donald Trump, from Black Lives Matter to #MeToo, from school shootings to the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/film\/fast-and-furious\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">Fast &amp; Furious<\/a> franchise, regularly beam out to millions of readers across the world. She may not be <em class=\"dcr-19m3vvb\">the <\/em>voice in your head. But she\u2019s likely to be one of them.<\/p>\n<aside class=\"dcr-q9zy3m\"><svg viewbox=\"4 4 24 16\" class=\"dcr-rj2jmf\"><path d=\"M9.2776 8H14.0473C13.4732 12.5489 12.9653 17.0095 12.7445 22H4C4.79495 17.142 6.4511 12.5489 9.2776 8ZM20.3852 8H25.0887C24.5808 12.5489 24.0067 17.0095 23.7859 22H15.0635C15.9688 17.142 17.5587 12.5489 20.3852 8Z\"\/><\/svg><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"dcr-928886\"><p>These days\u00a0you never know when an angry man with a gun\u00a0is going to stroll\u00a0on to campus<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<footer><cite class=\"dcr-gu2lh8\"\/><\/footer>\n<\/aside>\n<p class=\"dcr-19m3vvb\">\u201cI think our primary responsibility is to be honest,\u201d Gay says, of her role as an opinion writer. \u201cI think if you have to manipulate to make an argument, then your argument isn\u2019t sound and you need to start over.\u201d Just as important is to <em class=\"dcr-19m3vvb\">have<\/em> an actual opinion.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-19m3vvb\">\u201cYou look at our political class, they don\u2019t say anything about anything,\u201d she says. \u201cThey all just sit in the middle of the road. And they try not to offend anyone. Or in the case of Trump, they just don\u2019t give a fuck and break everything. When you have a political class that\u2019s accustomed to saying nothing and doing nothing, the least we can do as opinion writers is have conviction and express that conviction as honestly and as powerfully as possible.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-19m3vvb\">The first and second sections of her new book, Opinions, focus on identity politics and Black lives, particularly in the US. The central question they ask is: how many times can the social contract be violated before the damage is irreparable? It is an eerie experience to read the names of the dead \u2013 Tamir Rice, Eric Garner, Sandra Bland, Samuel DuBose, Alton B Sterling, Jordan Neely \u2013 compacted by time into a few consecutive pages. How does Gay see the state of American racism?<\/p>\n<figure id=\"92f8dbcb-bee2-460e-9b84-1bf02fac4eb7\" data-spacefinder-role=\"inline\" data-spacefinder-type=\"model.dotcomrendering.pageElements.ImageBlockElement\" class=\" dcr-173mewl\">\n<div id=\"img-2\" class=\"dcr-1t8m8f2\"><picture class=\"dcr-evn1e9\"><source  media=\"(min-width: 660px) and (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 1.25), (min-width: 660px) and (min-resolution: 120dpi)\"\/><source  media=\"(min-width: 660px)\"\/><source  media=\"(min-width: 480px) and (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 1.25), (min-width: 480px) and (min-resolution: 120dpi)\"\/><source  media=\"(min-width: 480px)\"\/><source  media=\"(min-width: 320px) and (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 1.25), (min-width: 320px) and (min-resolution: 120dpi)\"\/><source  media=\"(min-width: 320px)\"\/><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Roxane Gay with her wife Debbie Millman\" src=\"https:\/\/www.businesstelegraph.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Roxane-Gay-\u2018Im-trying-to-move-further-left-because-thats.jpg\" width=\"445\" height=\"266.957809907561\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"dcr-evn1e9\"\/><\/picture><\/div><figcaption class=\"dcr-o6npt4\"><span class=\"dcr-17eagbs\"><svg width=\"18\" height=\"13\" viewbox=\"0 0 18 13\"><path d=\"M18 3.5v8l-1.5 1.5h-15l-1.5-1.5v-8l1.5-1.5h3.5l2-2h4l2 2h3.5l1.5 1.5zm-9 7.5c1.9 0 3.5-1.6 3.5-3.5s-1.6-3.5-3.5-3.5-3.5 1.6-3.5 3.5 1.6 3.5 3.5 3.5z\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"dcr-1m6r8g1\">Roxane Gay with her wife Debbie Millman.<\/span> Photograph: Leon Bennett\/WireImage<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p class=\"dcr-19m3vvb\">\u201cThe American attitude right now is, \u2018Oh, we\u2019re still talking about this?\u2019 And I think you can see that as evidenced by the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/law\/2023\/jun\/29\/us-supreme-court-affirmative-action-harvard-unc-ruling\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">recent supreme court decision<\/a> to essentially ban affirmative action.\u201d This limits the power of universities to consider an applicant\u2019s race in admissions, but Gay offers a prediction on that: \u201cThe thing is that in about two years, we\u2019re gonna see a lot of sad white women. We\u2019re gonna see a lot of tears. And like, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vox.com\/2016\/5\/25\/11682950\/fisher-supreme-court-white-women-affirmative-action\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">who did you think affirmative action was helping<\/a>? Because I teach, I work in higher education, at least for one more year. And when you look around, it\u2019s not <em class=\"dcr-19m3vvb\">us<\/em> who are the majority of the people on these campuses. So how did y\u2019all think you were getting in?\u201d Several reports over the years have suggested that white women have been the major beneficiary of affirmative action, from higher education to workplace outcomes. As for racism writ large, the prognosis is dire. \u201cWe have lost a lot of ground.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-19m3vvb\">Identity and how it shapes culture and policy remains a source of interest for Gay. She is herself at the intersection of a few inflection points in the US currently: race, gender, sexual orientation. She is also an author whose books have been <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harpersbazaar.com\/culture\/a45012950\/banned-book-list\/\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">banned in three states<\/a>. \u201cPeople use the phrase \u2018identity politics\u2019 as a cudgel,\u201d she says. \u201cAs a way of saying, \u2018don\u2019t make me uncomfortable. Don\u2019t make me have to confront history. Let\u2019s not belabour that point<em class=\"dcr-19m3vvb\">.\u2019<\/em> And honestly, that\u2019s so tiresome. It\u2019s weak. And I think it\u2019s important to call that out often and loudly.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-19m3vvb\">\u201cI think a lot of people, from frankly all walks of life, want to be free from identity. They want to live in a sort of identity vacuum where [they think], \u2018I can be seen and understood and respected for me.\u2019\u201d She shakes her head. \u201cIt\u2019s so sad that people think that, because you are <em class=\"dcr-19m3vvb\">you<\/em> because of all of the various things that make you who you are. We are not robots. And frankly, even robots have personalities, because people programme them.\u201d She muses on the cause of this disconnection. \u201cI think it\u2019s oftentimes that people worry that their identity is the thing that is standing in the way of their being seen and heard.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-19m3vvb\">Being seen and heard is at least one mainstay of the internet, for ill and for good. It\u2019s given Gay incredible reach, which means her work finds its way into corners she herself might not venture into. Does she still feel pressure to get it \u201cright\u201d?<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-19m3vvb\">\u201cThe older I get, and I think the more experienced I become, the more I recognise that as opinion writers and cultural critics, we are <em class=\"dcr-19m3vvb\">awful<\/em> certain,\u201d she says with a short laugh. \u201cWe live in a very uncertain world. And unfortunately, sometimes we are writing into a readership that craves certainty. And so there\u2019s less generosity of reading. The reality is, in this kind of work, you\u2019re never going to be perfect. And I\u2019m learning to develop a tolerance for that.\u201d<\/p>\n<figure id=\"e09169ec-e6e4-4839-99d6-718aff0e4e8e\" data-spacefinder-role=\"showcase\" data-spacefinder-type=\"model.dotcomrendering.pageElements.ImageBlockElement\" class=\" dcr-5h0uf4\">\n<div id=\"img-3\" class=\"dcr-1t8m8f2\"><picture class=\"dcr-evn1e9\"><source  media=\"(min-width: 1300px) and (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 1.25), (min-width: 1300px) and (min-resolution: 120dpi)\"\/><source  media=\"(min-width: 1300px)\"\/><source  media=\"(min-width: 1140px) and (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 1.25), (min-width: 1140px) and (min-resolution: 120dpi)\"\/><source  media=\"(min-width: 1140px)\"\/><source  media=\"(min-width: 980px) and (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 1.25), (min-width: 980px) and (min-resolution: 120dpi)\"\/><source  media=\"(min-width: 980px)\"\/><source  media=\"(min-width: 660px) and (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 1.25), (min-width: 660px) and (min-resolution: 120dpi)\"\/><source  media=\"(min-width: 660px)\"\/><source  media=\"(min-width: 480px) and (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 1.25), (min-width: 480px) and (min-resolution: 120dpi)\"\/><source  media=\"(min-width: 480px)\"\/><source  media=\"(min-width: 320px) and (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 1.25), (min-width: 320px) and (min-resolution: 120dpi)\"\/><source  media=\"(min-width: 320px)\"\/><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Demonstrators outside the supreme court in Washington DC in June, following its ruling against race-conscious university admissions.\" src=\"https:\/\/www.businesstelegraph.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/1697277321_882_Roxane-Gay-\u2018Im-trying-to-move-further-left-because-thats.jpg\" width=\"445\" height=\"267\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"dcr-evn1e9\"\/><\/picture><\/div><figcaption class=\"dcr-1xuk4sx\"><span class=\"dcr-17eagbs\"><svg width=\"18\" height=\"13\" viewbox=\"0 0 18 13\"><path d=\"M18 3.5v8l-1.5 1.5h-15l-1.5-1.5v-8l1.5-1.5h3.5l2-2h4l2 2h3.5l1.5 1.5zm-9 7.5c1.9 0 3.5-1.6 3.5-3.5s-1.6-3.5-3.5-3.5-3.5 1.6-3.5 3.5 1.6 3.5 3.5 3.5z\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"dcr-1m6r8g1\">Demonstrators outside the supreme court in Washington DC in June, following its ruling against race-conscious university admissions.<\/span> Photograph: Kent Nishimura\/Los Angeles Times\/Getty Images<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p class=\"dcr-19m3vvb\">She has an easier time letting go of the bad faith readers these days. \u201cThere are people who want to \u2018continue the discussion\u2019. They\u2019re the \u2018debate me!\u2019 boys. And the thing is, I did my work on the page. A lot of times people struggle to hear that.\u201d She laughs. \u201cThey just want attention. These are like, lonely people. And I have empathy for that. I understand loneliness, but I don\u2019t know that I can fix that for you.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-19m3vvb\">With <a href=\"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/2023\/08\/11\/1193393709\/experts-say-many-americans-see-violence-as-an-acceptable-way-to-resolve-differen\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">research<\/a> suggesting that a proportion of Americans believe <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/us-news\/2023\/jun\/09\/january-6-trump-political-violence-survey#:~:text=The%20survey%20found%20that%20almost,political%20goals%20that%20I%20support%E2%80%9D.\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">violence is the only way<\/a> to achieve certain political goals, does Gay worry about anger spilling offline? She has grown used to extra security at some of her events, she says. And when she\u2019s teaching, \u201cI just try to be cautious and responsible. These days you never know when an angry man with a gun is going to stroll on to campus. So I just try to be safe as often as I can.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-19m3vvb\">Her opinions, she states baldly in the introduction to the book, have not changed. \u201cI have been accused, often, of being a centrist, which I don\u2019t think is terribly inaccurate,\u201d she says carefully. \u201cBut what I\u2019ve been trying to do is really listen and look at why the centre is so comfortable. I\u2019m trying to move further left because that\u2019s the only way that we\u2019re really gonna achieve change. And I\u2019ve been trying to educate myself about, for example, prison abolition.\u201d Gay is referring to the movement in the US to abolish prisons in favour of restorative justice, in which harm is reduced and prevented by addressing people\u2019s needs.<\/p>\n<figure data-spacefinder-role=\"inline\" data-spacefinder-type=\"model.dotcomrendering.pageElements.NewsletterSignupBlockElement\" class=\" dcr-173mewl\" wp_automatic_readability=\"3.5621301775148\"><a data-ignore=\"global-link-styling\" href=\"#EmailSignup-skip-link-20\" class=\"dcr-dh5n8r\">skip past newsletter promotion<\/a><\/p>\n<aside aria-label=\"newsletter promotion\" class=\"dcr-124witz\" wp_automatic_readability=\"3.7161290322581\">\n<p class=\"dcr-1613jw2\">Discover new books with our expert reviews, author interviews and top 10s. 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We use Google reCaptcha to protect our website and the Google <a data-ignore=\"global-link-styling\" href=\"https:\/\/policies.google.com\/privacy\" rel=\"noreferrer\" class=\"dcr-15n74t1\">Privacy Policy<\/a> and <a data-ignore=\"global-link-styling\" href=\"https:\/\/policies.google.com\/terms\" rel=\"noreferrer\" class=\"dcr-15n74t1\">Terms of Service<\/a> apply.<\/span><\/aside>\n<p id=\"EmailSignup-skip-link-20\" tabindex=\"0\" aria-label=\"after newsletter promotion\" role=\"note\" class=\"dcr-dh5n8r\">after newsletter promotion<\/p>\n<\/figure>\n<p class=\"dcr-19m3vvb\">\u201cPrison conditions in this country are horrific. And we\u2019re seemingly fine with that. It\u2019s not enough to say that we need prison reform. You cannot reform the carceral system. I know that people believe that compromise happens in the middle, but we\u2019re not looking for compromise at this point. I think we\u2019re looking for freedom, for liberation, and that doesn\u2019t happen necessarily with compromise.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-19m3vvb\">She extols the intellectual heft of the activist and writer <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/profile\/mariame-kaba\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">Mariame Kaba<\/a> on this issue, just one of the people whose writing she finds insightful and important. \u201c[Kaba] is very good at meeting people where they\u2019re at. I think she\u2019s brilliant.\u201d<\/p>\n<aside class=\"dcr-q9zy3m\"><svg viewbox=\"4 4 24 16\" class=\"dcr-rj2jmf\"><path d=\"M9.2776 8H14.0473C13.4732 12.5489 12.9653 17.0095 12.7445 22H4C4.79495 17.142 6.4511 12.5489 9.2776 8ZM20.3852 8H25.0887C24.5808 12.5489 24.0067 17.0095 23.7859 22H15.0635C15.9688 17.142 17.5587 12.5489 20.3852 8Z\"\/><\/svg><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"dcr-928886\"><p>I\u2019m trying to move\u00a0further left\u00a0because\u00a0that\u2019s the only way that we\u2019re\u00a0really gonna achieve change<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<footer><cite class=\"dcr-gu2lh8\"\/><\/footer>\n<\/aside>\n<p class=\"dcr-19m3vvb\">She speaks similarly highly of her former <a href=\"https:\/\/heartoslaylive.com\/\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">Hear to Slay<\/a> podcast co-host, writer Tressie McMillan Cottom, and of the \u201cphenomenal\u201d culture critic <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pulitzer.org\/finalists\/soraya-nadia-mcdonald-undefeated\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">Soraya Nadia McDonald<\/a>. Other voices she admires include Palestinian author Randa Jarrar (\u201cShe never wavers in her convictions. And it comes at quite a cost for her because she\u2019s Palestinian and she dares to voice rage about the ways in which her people are suffering\u201d). There\u2019s also Gretchen Felker-Martin, whose novel <a href=\"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/2022\/03\/14\/1086399119\/in-manhunt-a-virus-turns-anyone-with-enough-testosterone-into-a-feral-beast\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">Manhunt<\/a> Gay calls \u201cmind-blowing\u201d. Most of her books are in LA but she tells me what she\u2019s been reading on her Kindle lately: the forthcoming <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harpercollins.com\/products\/the-great-divide-cristina-henriquez?variant=41079220469794\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">The Great Divide<\/a> by Cristina Henr\u00edquez, about the construction of the Panama Canal.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-19m3vvb\">Unsurprisingly, Gay is interested in all kinds of culture, across media, from microtrends on TikTok to the reality TV show Shark Tank. I ask her opinion of the online discourse around using <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/australia-news\/2023\/jul\/03\/can-diabetes-and-weight-loss-drug-ozempic-break-addictions-too\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">Ozempic<\/a> and other similair drugs for diabetes type 2 for weight loss, bearing in mind her own <a href=\"https:\/\/gay.medium.com\/the-body-that-understands-what-fullness-is-f2e40c40cd75\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">weight-loss surgery in 2018<\/a>, months after Hunger was published. \u201cIt\u2019s ridiculous,\u201d she says flatly. She finds much of the criticism mean and petty and ignorant. \u201cAnd you probably don\u2019t even know what Ozempic is. You\u2019ve just heard the word, you\u2019ve heard weight loss, and now this is a parlour game for you. And I think that the casual way that we play parlour games with each other in our lives and the bodies that we live in is sad, in some ways. Weight loss is hard no matter how you get there. Truly. It\u2019s this \u2018damned if you do, damned if you don\u2019t\u2019 \u2013 you should lose weight, you should be thinner. Oh, but not like that<em class=\"dcr-19m3vvb\">.<\/em>\u201d She scoffs. \u201cPlease.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-19m3vvb\">The final section in Opinions is titled \u201cSolicited Advice\u201d, collected from her \u201cAsk Roxane\u201d column in the New York Times. Gay finds advice-giving pleasurable \u2013 \u201cIt\u2019s that feeling of having an outside perspective and feeling like other people\u2019s problems are more manageable than my own\u201d \u2013 and does so on the understanding that it is likely to go unheeded. \u201cOftentimes advice is more about the advice-giver than the person who\u2019s receiving it,\u201d she says. What advice would she give her younger self?<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-19m3vvb\">\u201cI think my primary advice is that we cannot afford to be nihilistic and throw our hands up and say everything is hopeless,\u201d she says. \u201cI think that nihilism is as futile as hope. We can be clear-eyed and we can lament the state of the world, but we cannot give up, because I do think that there\u2019s a lot of joy to be had. I think that we do have a future, even though climate change is here.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-19m3vvb\">In the book\u2019s introduction, Gay writes: \u201cI did the best I could with the knowledge and skill I had at the time. And I continue to write that way.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-19m3vvb\">\u201cHistorically voices like ours have never been given access to [a] broad audience,\u201d she says. \u201cI don\u2019t presume to think that I am important, but I do think that the more of us that articulate our understanding of the world and our interpretation of the world, the better. And we may not find a lot of people that are interested in listening to us. But I do think we find <em class=\"dcr-19m3vvb\">some<\/em> people and I find that that\u2019s enough when it\u2019s the right people,\u201d she concludes.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-19m3vvb\">\u201cWe don\u2019t have to agree. But it would be great if you just listened.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-19m3vvb\"><span data-dcr-style=\"bullet\"\/> <em class=\"dcr-19m3vvb\">Opinions: A Decade of Arguments, Criticism and Minding Other People\u2019s Business by Roxane Gay is published by Corsair. 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