A military whistleblower says the US government has retrieved at least ten alien bodies from UFO crashes.
Speaking on the Joe Rogan Experience podcast, David Charles Grusch said the number of crashes recorded was in ‘double digits’, and that the number of extraterrestrial bodies recovered was ‘up there as well, just like with the retrievals’.
Former US intelligence officer Mr Grusch stunned the world earlier this year when alleging the government had evidence of ‘intact and partially intact’ alien vehicles.
The revelations led, in part, to a special congressional hearing on Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP, formerly UFOs), at which Mr Grusch and two other witnesses testified. Under oath he repeated his claims, adding that people had been ‘harmed’ in an attempt to cover up the information.
Speaking to controversial podcast host Mr Rogan earlier this week, Mr Grusch spent more than two and a half hours discussing his claims and experiences with UAP.
Asked how many ‘biological entities’ had been found, he said ‘a variety, and we have a certain number of different things’.
‘But the total numbers of what’s interacting with us on Earth, I mean nobody knows that,’ he added.
‘I talk to people who are familiar with the biological analysis and everything. So we have some idea, not a complete picture because it’s like, you’re looking at it, it’s like, well I don’t even understand the physiology at all, it’s like “what the heck, it’s way different”.’
However, he was also unable to confirm where the crashes had occurred.
‘Nobody I talked to espoused any specific origin to me,’ he said. ‘We may know that but I’m not aware of anything.’
Mr Grusch has made clear he himself has not had any direct interactions with UAP or aliens, but has spoken to dozens of sources, including a former senator.
‘During my investigation I needed to talk to somebody at the highest levels,’ he said. ‘I’m only going to talk about one, because he died two years ago. I met with Senator Harry Reid about nine months before he died. Of course he was a private citizen then, but I wanted to get his thoughts on it because, you know, he was a Gang of Eight member, the top most cleared senators and congressmen.
‘So I’m in Harry Reid’s living room, with some other witnesses, and he says “Yeah, I knew we have UFO material. I was denied access for decades”. And I was like, “did he just confirm this to me?”.
Mr Grusch went on to confirm that the senator said the government had UAP material, and that it was non-human, but did not know if Mr Reid had seen it personally.
When asked what he could and could not share in public, Mr Grusch said: ‘Foreign intelligence services are watching, and it’s not like I’m here to help Russia and China calibrate their intelligence collection.
‘I’m just trying to put all the general topics out there for public conversation to hold our government accountable.’
Mr Grusch first made his claims public in June, stating the government possessed proof of UFOs and was keeping it secret from the public.
Between late 2021 and July 2022 he was co-lead for the analysis of UAP within a US Department of Defense agency, and said in an interview with the Debrief that information about the vehicles was being illegally withheld from Congress.
He added that when he turned over classified information about the vehicles to Congress, he suffered retaliation from officials.
Claims of the existence of ‘exotic materials’ were repeated in the interview by a second source, National Air and Space Intelligence Center (Nasic) official Jonathan Grey, who said ‘We are not alone.’
However, Nasic denied an employee under that name ever existed.
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