Highlights
- Vanguard Global Emerging Markets Fund co-portfolio manager Caroline Cai reflects on the 18-year Vanguard-Pzena relationship.
- Pzena employs a value investment strategy, which focuses on investing in companies that are undervalued relative to their peers or in historic terms.
- Pzena has a repeatable and disciplined investment process which it believes can lead to strong performance over the long term.
The Vanguard Global Emerging Markets Fund is an equity fund managed by three investment firms with complementary investment styles: Pzena in New York, Oaktree in Los Angeles and Baillie Gifford in Edinburgh.
Pzena employs a value investment strategy, which focuses on investing in companies that are undervalued relative to their peers or in historic terms. Oaktree takes a risk-controlled approach that places an emphasis on preventing losses, while Baillie Gifford seeks to identify companies that have above-average cash flow and earnings growth.
Caroline Cai, part of the team which manages the Pzena portion of the Vanguard Global Emerging Markets Fund, reflects on the 18-year Vanguard-Pzena relationship, her firm’s active investment edge and how psychology affects value-style opportunities. This Q&A and accompanying video is the first in a three-part series.
Could you elaborate on the relationship between Vanguard and Pzena?
(CC) Our relationship with Vanguard has been critical to our success at Pzena over the years. It’s been a very long and successful partnership from our perspective. One of the things that we really admire about Vanguard is its long-term and consistent focus on value to investors.
After the Global Financial Crisis, value investing had its challenges as did Pzena, with its focus on value investing. Not only did Vanguard stick with us, recognising that value stocks have a role to play in a balanced portfolio, but it has expanded its relationship with Pzena over the years.
What do you think makes a good partnership?
We think a good partnership is built on a set of aligned fundamental beliefs: a long-term perspective, a focus on excellence, collaboration, good people and robust processes. These are all the things that we see in our daily interactions with Vanguard and are the things that we believe are critical to the long-term success of any asset manager. We look forward to many more years of partnership and success with Vanguard.
What do Pzena’s philosophy and process mean to the broader team?
Our analysts are focused on what makes a company profitable, not whatever the next person is willing to pay for the business. We draw from a very diverse background in terms of industry, education and geography in terms of where our team members grew up and what they’ve been exposed to.
On the process side, it is all about a repeatable and disciplined process as to whether value is in or out of favour, and that comes from the strong belief in this way of investing. It’s really our primary area of expertise and we believe that that can lead to good performance over the long run. Providing that value exposure consistently over time is fundamentally what our clients expect from us.
How would you define Pzena’s active edge?
(CC): I think of it as having three key components – a clear philosophy, good people and a robust process. Value investing has a very strong behavioral and psychological underpinning. There is strong empirical evidence that this is an anomaly that’s persisted in the market over time because psychology doesn’t really change investors’ discomfort with uncertain situations over time.
And then it really comes back to the people because that’s what we rely on: how does this business get in trouble and is this permanent or temporary? How can it fix itself? For that you need a group of people with very diverse backgrounds who want to be students of businesses as opposed to traders of stocks because it’s a different time horizon and a different mentality that you bring to the table.
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