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International leaders discuss how to use science, technology and innovation to create sustainable solutions – Toronto Metropolitan University


Sarah Jameson, policy advisor of the Trade Union Advisory Committee to the OECD, spoke about how to ensure the transition is a just one. She highlighted the important role of social partners and trade unions in addressing barriers workers face in accessing training and upskilling opportunities. “They do this through negotiating rights to training and the conditions to exercise these rights in practice, such as paid training or leave in collective agreements,” Jameson said. 

Then, Cukier spoke about the importance of an ecological lens in the green transition. She opened by highlighting the successful work of the OECD in outlining the difference between invention and innovation. To create change and move toward sustainable practices, she said, it’s not only about creating new technology, it’s about driving social change and adoption. “If we do not understand the processes of driving change at the political level, the organizational level and the individual level, we will not reap the benefits,” Cukier said. 

Pointing to the COVID-19 pandemic as an example, she said, “Inoculation is an innovation.” She highlighted that it required multiple partners, disciplines and a shared vision to protect people from the virus. Cukier encouraged everyone to think about the green transition as an even greater priority. “As a species, we have survived multiple pandemics, but we will not survive the destruction of the world.”

Cukier emphasized the importance of defining green skills, and the role of reskilling and upskilling programs, like ADaPT and DI’s other training and work placement programs. She pointed to a recent DI report, which shows the important role that small and medium-sized enterprises (SMEs) play in the transition to net-zero. She said that the most common areas within SMEs that need to transition to more sustainable practices are procurement, product design and infrastructure. Through training programs, digital and green skills can be more accessible and help to address the gaps. “We really have to break that notion that STEM [science, technology, engineering and math] and green skills are the same thing,” she said. 

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Cukier also highlighted the importance of the Indigenous perspective in any discussions about sustainability, because Indigenous Peoples bring a perspective of seven generations: a long-term view on everything that they do. To live out Canada’s commitment to truth and reconciliation, Cukier said we also need to recognize the impact of environmental racism. “We don’t just have an issue with unequal access to skills and opportunities, but we have disproportionate effects on equity-deserving groups in terms of the negative impacts of environmental degradation,” she said. She cautioned that society cannot repeat mistakes that have been seen in the digital transformation. “We do not want a green-divide, where some people experience the negative impacts more than others and have less access to the opportunities,” Cukier said, emphasizing that the transition to net zero must prioritize inclusion.

To close, Cukier emphasized the important contribution the OECD can continue to make around tracking, sharing research, and ensuring impact and accountability. Pointing to the OECD rankings, Cukier said that as a tool, it helps hold countries accountable and drive change. She said, “They have an impact in driving organizations forward through the sharing of best practices, recognizing what we should replicate and what we should scale.”



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